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This episode features Andrew Huberman's discussion with Ido Portal, a figure described as the world expert in movement, who defies formal definition. Huberman introduces movement as a fundamental aspect of the nervous system, citing Nobel laureate Sherrington's idea that "Movement is the final common path," highlighting the human nervous system's unparalleled variety in generating movement. Ido Portal is presented as both a seasoned practitioner, having trained top athletes like Conor McGregor and studied various martial arts, dance, and gymnastics, and a true intellectual capable of discussing movement with exquisite detail and simplicity. The conversation aims to provide insights into how the nervous system generates movement, how movement serves various life contexts beyond sport, and how it informs relationships and self-engagement.
Ido Portal shares his expansive conception of movement, which he intentionally leaves loosely defined to avoid constriction. He views movement as the core entity that ties everything together, encompassing not just physical motion but also the "movement of emotions" and "movement of thoughts." He challenges the Cartesian mind-body dualism, proposing an integrated "movement/body/mind system" where everything is interconnected and in motion. For Ido, a movement practice involves the interplay of action, emotion, and thought, which he strives to integrate into his daily life. He distinguishes between "movements" (the specific containers or forms) and "Movement" (the content or underlying dynamic nature), emphasizing that the content cannot exist without containers.
Regarding the approach to a movement practice, Ido suggests that it's a rhizomatic, open, and decentralized system that can be entered from anywhere. The initial step is education and self-inquiry, bringing awareness to the fact that one lives in a body, in motion, and that even the mind and life itself are types of movement. He advocates for non-verbal experiences and paying attention to the dynamic nature of existence, drawing on Moshe Feldenkrais's perspective of the body as a system of nervous system, mechanical system, and environment. Practical examples include navigating crowded streets with heightened awareness or incorporating subtle movements like rocking in a chair to maintain freshness and focus.
Huberman and Portal discuss the broader implications of this holistic approach, including the role of playfulness and the dangers of over-specialization, particularly in childhood sports, which can constrain nervous system development. Ido emphasizes that the less developed one's personal practice, the more external tools are perceived as necessary, contrasting this with the idea that "the more low-tech are your tools, the more high-tech you are." He champions the body's inherent capabilities and the potential for discovery in simple environments like a floor or a wall, advocating for a self-education process that fosters adaptability and prevents stagnation, ultimately enriching one's entire developmental arc from birth to death.
Movement is the final common path.
We are not just a brain with a body, but we are a body with a brain.
words corrupt us and corrupt our understanding.
movement, for me, is the entity that ties everything together.
There is no really pure mental processes, cognitive processes. There is no pure physical processes, everything touches everything, there is a wholeness, and that wholeness is in motion.
Am I doing movements practice, or am I doing a movement practice?
The less of your own personal practice, and understanding, and knowledge you've done, the more toys you need. The more you've really worked on yourself, the more high-tech you are. The more low-tech are your tools, the more high-tech you are.
development doesn't start and end, you don't have childhood and adulthood. Our life is one long developmental arc from birth until death, however long that might be.
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