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psychacks·June 17, 2024

Women, Commitment, and the Strategic Necessity of 'Being Used' in Modern Dating

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Summary

This episode addresses women's concerns about being "used" in modern dating, particularly when sexual intimacy precedes commitment, leading to situationships or ghosting. Dr. Terban argues that to secure commitment from a "high-value man," women must strategically embrace a mindset of "allowing themselves to be used" by demonstrating consistent value and effort, drawing a provocative analogy to an employee seeking a CEO position within a company.

The podcast outlines three critical steps for women to navigate this reality successfully. First, women must exercise appropriate discernment to identify men genuinely interested in commitment, rather than relying on verbal assurances which are often deceptive. It is presented as the woman's responsibility to vet potential partners, as men have learned to give desired answers regardless of their true intentions. Second, women must "do their job really well" by consistently exceeding expectations and providing value, which inherently means "allowing yourself to be used" by the man. This involves sustained effort and demonstrating usefulness without immediate guarantees. Third, women are advised to "play their cards right" by understanding the competitive dynamics of the "sexual marketplace" and being willing to engage in strategic maneuvering, likened to the complex power plays in "Game of Thrones.

The core practical insight is that value must be demonstrated upfront, often without immediate reciprocation or guarantee, similar to working before receiving a paycheck. The speaker emphasizes that "potential doesn't count for anything" if not actualized through effort. He notes that men also "allow themselves to be used" (for resources) to gain access to women's sexual opportunities, a reality men have largely accepted due to societal pressures. The modern "sexual marketplace" is characterized as a "buyer's market" for sex, implying that women may need to exert more effort and patience than in previous generations to achieve their desired relationship outcomes.

Broader implications include a challenge to traditional notions of fairness, asserting that prevailing market forces dictate what is necessary, not what is inherently "right." The only alternative to being "used" is to be "ornamental," which requires extreme beauty and implies a passive, status-symbol role, deemed undesirable and unattainable for most. The episode reframes the pursuit of commitment as a strategic, value-exchange process where upfront investment, consistent effort, and a willingness to be instrumental are prerequisites for achieving desired long-term relationship goals.

Key Quotes

women have to allow themselves to be used
it's not men's responsibility to be honest and transparent with you... it's your job to figure out the truth
wanting to get married to a high value guy is kind of like wanting to be the CEO of a successful company
you're going to increase the likelihood that you'll get promoted by showing up and doing your [ __ ] job really really well every single day
if you don't allow your employer or your customers to use you to use your time or your service or your expertise then you cannot expect to get what you want from them
a highly skilled worker who does not allow herself to be used is useless and useless things typically aren't very valuable
in today's sexual Marketplace you have to allow yourself to be used women in order to get what you want
it is a buyer's market not a sellers one

Concepts

Themes

  • Relationship strategy
  • Gender roles and expectations
  • Value exchange in relationships
  • Personal responsibility and agency
  • Navigating modern dating
  • The nature of commitment
  • Market forces in human interaction

Related to:

Relationships Insights

Dating Advice

  • Exercise appropriate discernment in vetting partners.
  • Do not rely on men's verbal claims about relationship intentions.
  • Consistently provide value and exceed expectations without immediate guarantees.
  • Understand and strategically navigate the competitive dynamics of the modern dating market.

Relationship Dynamics

  • Perceived exploitation vs. strategic value exchange.
  • The role of upfront effort and investment in securing commitment.
  • Power imbalances in the 'sexual marketplace'.
  • The necessity of 'usefulness' for both men and women to achieve dating goals.

Gender Roles

  • Men as resource providers (implied 'paying').
  • Women as value providers or 'ornaments'.
  • Societal pressures on men regarding 'usefulness'.

Market Analogies

  • Dating as a 'sexual marketplace'.
  • Commitment as a 'CEO position'.
  • Sex as a 'buyer's market'.
  • Relationship effort as 'compensation package' or 'unpaid internship'.

Common Pitfalls

  • Punishing honesty, leading to deception from men.
  • Expecting commitment without demonstrating consistent value.
  • Believing the world is a meritocracy in dating.
  • Failing to understand prevailing market forces in relationships.

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