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psychacks·July 1, 2024

The Prohibitive Cost of Traditional Dating for Highly Successful Men and the Appeal of Escorts

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Summary

Dr. Orion Taban explores why highly successful men, despite having high sexual marketplace value (SMV), often turn to escorts. He argues that traditional dating becomes prohibitively expensive for individuals at the top tiers of attractiveness or success, leading them to "price themselves out" of the conventional dating market. The episode, the first in a three-part series, aims to help women understand the unique challenges faced by these men, whom they might otherwise seek for long-term relationships. Taban explicitly states this is not an endorsement of prostitution but an an attempt to foster understanding, having personally shifted his judgmental views after conversations and experiences.

The podcast draws a parallel between extremely attractive women and highly successful men, both of whom face a distinct set of problems that less successful or attractive individuals often dismiss as "champagne problems." These difficulties, though not related to survival, are real and receive little sympathy due to their rarity. The "sweet spot" for women is identified as an 8.5/10 in attractiveness, and for men, earning high six to low seven figures, as these levels attract attention without incurring the extreme liabilities of world-class beauty or immense wealth. The core distinction is that for top-tier men, the issue isn't a lack of interested women, but the immense time, energy, and emotional cost of traditional courtship.

For women targeting successful men, understanding these economic and emotional dynamics is crucial. The episode highlights the significant "cost to time" for a successful man, exemplified by a corporate lawyer billing $1,300/hour, where a single date can represent thousands of dollars in lost income and opportunity. This financial cost is compounded by the extensive emotional labor required from men—being charming, funny, stimulating attraction, listening, and maintaining an authentic facade—all without appearing to be "work." The practical insight is that traditional dating, for these men, often feels like "another job, but a job that you pay to work," making alternatives like escorts a more efficient, albeit morally complex, option.

The discussion implies a broader critique of modern dating dynamics, particularly how the sexual marketplace operates at its extremes. It suggests that societal expectations around courtship, combined with the increasing value placed on time and efficiency by highly successful individuals, create a system where traditional romantic pursuits become unsustainable for some. This perspective challenges conventional judgments about men who use escorts, reframing their choices not necessarily as a failure to attract, but as a rational response to an economically and emotionally taxing dating landscape. It opens a dialogue about the hidden costs of success and the often-unacknowledged emotional labor performed by men in relationships.

Key Quotes

"This is not an endorsement for prostitution."
"I actually don't believe they constitute the majority of an escort's clients."
"The higher your normalized sexual Marketplace value the more traditional dating becomes increasingly expensive."
"The problems of really beautiful women are real problems... The same thing holds true for men."
"If anyone Garners more unearned hatred than the beautiful it's the wealthy."
"The reason why so many of these top tier men use prostitutes is because it becomes prohibitively expensive to date traditionally once you cross a certain point."
"Even if we ignore all the monetary expenses associated with the date itself... a 3-hour date bookended by an hour of travel at $1,300 an hour is $5,200."
"It's absolutely true that men perform a great deal of emotional labor for women... typically has to do with getting laid and securing and maintaining the relationship."
"Dating just feels like another job but a job that you pay to work."

Concepts

Themes

  • The Hidden Costs of Success
  • Gendered Dynamics in Dating
  • Re-evaluating Social Judgments
  • The Economics of Relationships
  • Emotional Labor and Gender
  • Challenges of High-Value Individuals
  • Efficiency vs. Traditional Courtship

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Relationships Insights

Dating Dynamics For High Value Individuals

  • The unique challenges and costs faced by extremely attractive women and highly successful men in the traditional dating market.

Gendered Emotional Labor

  • The distinction between emotional labor typically performed by women (e.g., nurturing, household management) and men (e.g., courtship, securing relationships, stimulating attraction).

Socioeconomic Impact On Relationships

  • How wealth and status significantly alter the practical and emotional landscape of dating for men.

Paradox Of Success In Dating

  • How achieving high levels of success can paradoxically make traditional dating more difficult and less appealing.

Critique Of Traditional Courtship

  • The argument that the conventional dating pipeline is inefficient and costly for certain demographics, leading to alternative behaviors.

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