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psychacks·August 23, 2024

Why Popular Dating Advice Fails: The Interplay of Psychological and Economic Realities in the Sexual Marketplace

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Summary

This podcast episode, hosted by Dr. Orion Taban, critically analyzes why most popular dating advice is fundamentally flawed and often ineffective. The core argument is that dating advice tends to be "half right" because it exclusively focuses on either the psychological or the economic dimensions of relationships, failing to acknowledge that successful relationships are a complex interplay of both. The host posits that the fundamental principle in mating and dating is that everyone seeks to get and keep their perceived best option, meaning relationships inherently involve both psychological perception and economic value.

The episode first dissects dating advice that overemphasizes psychological components. This includes intra-psychic issues like unhealed emotional wounding, self-sabotage, low self-worth, or attachment styles, often stemming from a "therapism" perspective that believes all problems can be solved by introspection. It also covers interpersonal dynamics such as communication skills, love languages, emotional vulnerability, or boundaries. While these aspects have validity, the advice fails by intellectually isolating the couple from the larger context of the sexual marketplace, ignoring that even the most psychologically sound individual or couple will struggle if they are not perceived as a competitive option.

Conversely, the podcast examines dating advice that solely focuses on economic components, such as body mass index, fashion, bank accounts, social status, or physical attractiveness (Sexual Marketplace Value - SMV). This perspective, though less common, assumes that relationships depend entirely on standardized, impersonal SMV. While acknowledging that attractiveness significantly influences relationship selection and negotiation, the host argues that it's not the whole story. Highly attractive individuals with toxic personalities or sociopathic tendencies are still difficult partners, demonstrating that economic value alone is insufficient for a healthy, lasting relationship.

Dr. Taban concludes that the ideal approach is to be both a "good" (psychologically sound) and "attractive" (economically valuable) partner. However, since achieving both perfectly is difficult and expensive, people often selectively emphasize their strengths and denigrate their weaknesses. The practical insight offered is that if one absolutely had to prioritize, airing on the side of being attractive is more effective in the sexual marketplace, as it generates more options and competition for one's company. Ultimately, the episode advocates for accepting the often-uncomfortable realities of the sexual marketplace and striving for a balanced development of both psychological and economic value for optimal relationship success.

Key Quotes

most dating advice isn't worth the paper that it's printed on
the fundamental principle in the game of mating and dating is that everyone is attempting to get and keep their perceived best option
relationships always have two components: perception which is psychological and value which is economic
any model that focuses on one without the other is doomed to failure
a person could be the most psychologically stable emotionally intelligent securely attached individual on the planet and if he or she is unattractive it will be difficult for that person to get and keep a relationship
relationships do not occur in a vacuum rather they always exist... in the context of the overarching sexual Marketplace
if you cannot beat out your intersexual competition it's less likely that you will be selected for a relationship and it's less likely that you will retain any relationship for which you were selected
relationships absolutely don't turn on the fulcrum of attractiveness
the ideal is to be a good and attractive partner
if you absolutely had to prioritize one component over the other you should air on the side of being attractive
if you have more of what more people most want you will be a wash in relationships of all kinds and people will compete for the privilege of your company

Concepts

Themes

  • Critique of conventional dating advice
  • The dual nature of relationships (psychological and economic)
  • The reality of the sexual marketplace
  • The limitations of psychological-only approaches
  • The limitations of economic-only approaches
  • The importance of attractiveness in dating
  • Pragmatism vs. idealism in relationships
  • Holistic self-improvement for relationship success

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Relationships Insights

Relationship Models Critiqued

  • Psychological-only models
  • Economic-only models

Key Drivers Of Attraction

  • Perceived value
  • Attractiveness (SMV)
  • Psychological goodness (e.g., empathy, communication)

Common Dating Advice Fallacies

  • Focus on unhealed trauma as sole barrier
  • Belief that communication solves all issues
  • Ignoring the sexual marketplace context
  • Assuming relationships are purely economic transactions

Actionable Recommendations

  • Accepting the reality of the sexual marketplace
  • Developing both psychological 'goodness' and economic 'attractiveness'
  • Prioritizing attractiveness if forced to choose

Paradoxical Mechanisms

  • Attractive but toxic individuals still draw interest
  • Good but unattractive individuals struggle in the sexual marketplace

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