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psychacks·February 5, 2024

Politics, Sexual Withholding, and the Inefficacy of the Lysistrata Protocol in Modern Dating

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Summary

Dr. Orion Taban explores the intersection of progressive politics, ideological feminism, and sexual withholding in contemporary dating, coining the term \"Lysistrata Protocol\" to describe the tactic of withholding sex for political ends. He begins with a personal anecdote from his dating history in the San Francisco Bay Area, where he experienced sexual withholding as a punishment for \"wrong think\" that diverged from dominant ideological beliefs, such as his reading preferences not aligning with gender representation quotas. This personal experience is presented as a microcosm of a broader trend he observes among his clients, where ideological alignment becomes a prerequisite for romantic and sexual access, effectively weeding out men who do not conform.\n\nThe core of the discussion centers on the \"Lysistrata Protocol,\" drawing a direct parallel to Aristophanes' ancient Greek comedy where women withheld sex to end the Peloponnesian War. While the play depicts this strategy as successful due to a unified front, Dr. Taban argues that in reality, this protocol is an inept sexual strategy. He highlights a crucial distinction: unlike the fictional scenario, real-world intersexual competition among women undermines any attempt at a unanimous sexual embargo. One woman's ideological withdrawal from the sexual marketplace, whether by withholding sex or making herself less appealing, inadvertently creates an opportunity for other women who remain available.\n\nFrom a practical standpoint, the podcast suggests that a strategic woman might encourage others to adopt ideologically driven behaviors that reduce their attractiveness or availability, while clandestinely remaining in the sexual marketplace herself. This \"sneaky sneaky\" approach allows her to benefit from reduced competition for desirable men. The speaker posits that many women who publicly champion or celebrate ideologically motivated self-sabotaging behaviors (like altering appearance to be less conventionally attractive) do not adopt these behaviors themselves, implying an unconscious or conscious strategic manipulation of competitors. This perspective offers a cynical yet pragmatic lens through which to view certain social movements within the dating context.\n\nBroadly, the episode frames these dynamics through the lens of evolutionary psychology, suggesting that women who withdraw or make themselves less attractive for ideological reasons are essentially \"dupes\" who exchange reproductive success for the social praise of their competitors. The Lysistrata Protocol, therefore, is deemed self-correcting and unlikely to become a dominant mating strategy because women who aggressively practice it rarely succeed in dating and mating. The discussion underscores the complex interplay between individual ideological commitments, social pressures, evolutionary drives, and the practical realities of the sexual marketplace, offering a critical analysis of how political agendas can manifest and often falter in the intimate sphere of relationships." "concepts": [ "Sexual withholding

Key Quotes

I've been punished with sexual withholding for wrong think that misaligned with these systems.
Anything less than perfect alignment with their ideology was considered to be a personal threat to be punished and condemned.
This is the nature of things when sex becomes a consciously political act.
I call the tactic of withholding sex for a political end the listrada protocol.
The moral is that women can effectively dictate social policy by withholding sexual access.
One woman's withholding is another woman's opportunity.
A woman's best strategy with respect to these social movements is to encourage as many other women as possible to withdraw from the sexual Marketplace either by means of the list Estrada protocol or by making themselves less appealing to to men while continuing to remain clandestinely in the sexual Marketplace themselves sneaky sneaky right.
Seen through the lens of evolutionary psychology women who withdraw from the sexual Marketplace or make themselves less attractive on ideological grounds are the dupes who were deceived by the positive reinforcement of their intersexual competition.
The lstr protocol is an inept sexual strategy because it won't ever be possible to secure a unified front among all women.
Women who practice this strategy aggressively rarely succeed in the game of mating and dating.

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Themes

  • Ideology vs. personal relationships
  • Power dynamics in dating
  • Feminism and dating
  • Sexual strategy and competition
  • Consequences of ideological alignment in dating
  • Evolutionary perspectives on human behavior
  • Social engineering in dating

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