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NewEconomicThinking·August 23, 2020

COVID-19's Unmasking of Neoliberalism: Authoritarianism, Commons, and the Green New Deal

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Summary

The COVID-19 pandemic has exposed profound vulnerabilities in global systems, particularly the 'just-in-time' private sector and underfunded public health infrastructures in many Western nations. Gal Giraud criticizes the initial 'medieval reaction' of lockdowns, attributing it to a lack of preparedness rooted in a neoliberal ideology that prioritizes market efficiency over public resilience. He argues that mainstream equilibrium economics is ill-equipped to handle simultaneous supply and demand shocks, creating an urgent need and opportunity for non-orthodox economic thinking. This crisis has ignited a critical debate on whether to reinforce public health systems or further privatize them, with Giraud strongly advocating for the former.

Giraud highlights a stark contrast between countries with effective pandemic responses (e.g., Taiwan, South Korea, Iceland) and those that struggled (e.g., Italy, France, UK). He emphasizes that COVID-19 is not an isolated 'black swan' event but a precursor to future crises driven by biodiversity erosion and climate change. This necessitates a fundamental re-evaluation of globalization, advocating for the relocalization of industry to build resilience, despite potential microeconomic challenges like increased labor costs. He critiques the neoliberal ideology that demonizes the state and deifies markets, asserting that its dismantling of public services is an 'ideology that kills' and that a robust public system is essential for collective health, even for the wealthy.

As a practical path forward, Giraud proposes moving beyond the traditional state-market dichotomy to embrace a 'third pillar' of civil society creating 'commons.' He illustrates this with examples such as community-managed water systems (e.g., La Paz, Bolivia) and complementary currencies (e.g., Sardex in Sardinia), suggesting that essential resources like water, labor, and money should be treated as commons rather than private commodities or state monopolies. To address the climate crisis post-pandemic, he advocates for cancelling a significant portion of public debt held by the European Central Bank, arguing this would free up fiscal space for a Green New Deal without undermining the Euro's credibility, which he believes stems from the eurozone's wealth, not the ECB's equity.

The podcast warns of a dangerous 'fork in the road' towards an 'authoritarian neoliberal state' where the state is captured to serve private interests, a stark deviation from the original liberal project of protecting citizens from tyranny. Giraud contends that the crisis offers a critical juncture: either revert to a 'business as usual' scenario, which he warns would be catastrophic for climate change, or seize the opportunity to accelerate a transition towards a sustainable, resilient society through a Green New Deal and the empowerment of commons. This framework, he concludes, offers a revolutionary intellectual and political alternative to both market fundamentalism and bureaucratic state control.

Key Quotes

many European countries have had a very bad reaction to the panamic they didn't prepare themselves they didn't have any strategic plan like taiwan south korea or vietnam
mainstream economics being built on the idea that everything is at equilibrium to begin with cannot deal with this kind of problem where we have a big crisis where we both have a collapse of the supply side and the demand side side at the same time
this pandemic opens a big window for not for non-orthodox alternatives like you know dynamic systems are using microeconomic theory in order to try to deal with this complexity of an economy which is certainly not a equilibrium
this panoramic is not a one-shot big you know black swan that will never come back in the sense that first it might turn into a season seasonary pandemic in case the virus would mutate and come back second there will be other pandemics due to the erosion of biodiversity
preventing events like a pandemic is not profitable in the short term hence no provisions were made for mass tests or tests to be carried out massively we've reduced hospital capacity in the name of the ideology of demand dismantling public services which is now showing itself for what it is an ideology that kills
the best way to to remain healthy is for the rich to pay for a public system for the poor
incomplete financial markets are always or almost always inefficient and deeply inefficient they are not even certain best efficient
the authoritarian neoliberal state is a way to combine the state actually to capture the state that is the public instance in a society to to make it serve some private interests and that's to my for my viewpoint the essence of of neoliberalism
the project the political and social project of the commons goes exactly in the in the other direction saying everything depends upon the the resources that we want to um to manage and to deal with of which we want to take care as a community and that we want to turn into a commons
not taking this opportunity to implement a green new deal would just be catastrophic and would probably bring us back to this very to the this business as usual a scenario which is um very frightening
if the alternative is between this and it is non-orthodox measure and on the on the one hand and on the other hand a big depression worse than the one we had in the 30s during 10 days i definitely choose the first option

Concepts

Themes

  • Vulnerability of globalized systems
  • Critique of neoliberal economic paradigms
  • Role of public services vs. privatization
  • The 'commons' as an alternative governance model
  • Climate crisis and post-pandemic recovery
  • Risk of authoritarianism vs. democratic renewal
  • Rethinking money and finance
  • Resilience vs. efficiency

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Economics Insights

Geopolitical Mechanisms

  • Globalization, supply chain vulnerabilities, state capture by private interests, international collaboration for climate action, shift towards authoritarian neoliberal states.

Historical Parallels

  • The Great Depression of the 1930s (mentioned as a potential worse outcome if current crises are mishandled).

Countries Involved

  • Italy, France, UK, Spain, Ireland, Germany, Netherlands, Sweden, Iceland, Malta, Taiwan, South Korea, Vietnam, USA, Bolivia (La Paz), China, India, Japan.

Key Figures

  • Gal Giraud, Rob Johnson, Raghuram Rajan, Stuart Zechman, Ian Welsh, John Geanakoplos, Andrew Mas-Colell, Ronald, Elinor Ostrom, Karl Polanyi, Irving Fisher, Hyman Minsky.

Economic Policies Discussed

  • Public health system reinforcement vs. privatization, relocalization of industry, Green New Deal, public debt cancellation, complementary currencies, central bank independence, fiscal stimulus, deregulation.

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